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Miami-Dade Requires BG Check on Private Sales?

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:17 pm
by rug357
I was told yesterday by my BIL that in Miami-Dade a background check is required for private sales of guns now.
Is this something new? Is this required in other South Florida counties too? Broward, Palm Beach???

Re: Miami-Dade Requires BG Check on Private Sales?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:43 am
by tector
rug357 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:17 pm I was told yesterday by my BIL that in Miami-Dade a background check is required for private sales of guns now.
Is this something new? Is this required in other South Florida counties too? Broward, Palm Beach???
Only on public property, like the gun show at the Fairgrounds. That has been the law for many, many years.

Re: Miami-Dade Requires BG Check on Private Sales?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:48 am
by N4KVE
Most people just leave the property, & finalize the deal down the road. GARY.

Re: Miami-Dade Requires BG Check on Private Sales?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:22 am
by tector
N4KVE wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:48 am Most people just leave the property, & finalize the deal down the road. GARY.
Yep.

Re: Miami-Dade Requires BG Check on Private Sales?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:28 am
by Skoll
BG checks on private sales are completely unenforceable and not something you should comply with anyway.

Re: Miami-Dade Requires BG Check on Private Sales?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:55 pm
by tector
Skoll wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:28 am BG checks on private sales are completely unenforceable and not something you should comply with anyway.
God, maybe 10 years ago they were running stings on them at the Miami gun show. So it was definitely being enforced.

To my recollection Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach and and at least one Central Florida county have these rules. Government-as-landlord has leeway not allowed to government-as-government.

Re: Miami-Dade Requires BG Check on Private Sales?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:34 am
by P5 Guy
tector wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:55 pm
Skoll wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:28 am BG checks on private sales are completely unenforceable and not something you should comply with anyway.
God, maybe 10 years ago they were running stings on them at the Miami gun show. So it was definitely being enforced.

To my recollection Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach and and at least one Central Florida county have these rules. Government-as-landlord has leeway not allowed to government-as-government.
Orange County home of the tourist trap, Orlando fun show mandates UBC.

Re: Miami-Dade Requires BG Check on Private Sales?

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:25 pm
by randian
Skoll wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:28 am BG checks on private sales are completely unenforceable and not something you should comply with anyway.
Wouldn't such a law violate preemption?

Re: Miami-Dade Requires BG Check on Private Sales?

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:34 pm
by tector
It hasn't been found so far. See my post above about government-as-landlord.

Re: Miami-Dade Requires BG Check on Private Sales?

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:47 am
by wcontratto
P5 Guy wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:34 am
tector wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:55 pm
Skoll wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:28 am BG checks on private sales are completely unenforceable and not something you should comply with anyway.
God, maybe 10 years ago they were running stings on them at the Miami gun show. So it was definitely being enforced.

To my recollection Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach and and at least one Central Florida county have these rules. Government-as-landlord has leeway not allowed to government-as-government.
Orange County home of the tourist trap, Orlando fun show mandates UBC.
Contrary to popular opinion, the fairgrounds aren't owned by the government. The property is owned by a non-profit corporation, The Central Florida Fair, Inc. The property is not "public" so I am pretty sure the county ordinance is not enforceable. I'm pretty sure the owner of the gun show doesn't mind restricting private sales. Especially since he is also the largest participant in the show and private sales are competition.

That being said, I don't want to be the test case.