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https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/202 ... -disaster/

https://liveplaytampabay.com/man-was-re ... scue-says/

A Venice Florida home was recently set ablaze during a reloading disaster which resulted in over 10,000 rounds of ammunition being burned away in the blaze. According to the Fox 13 news report, the two-alarm fire was brought under control as neighboring houses were evacuated using remotely operated tools.


HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, Fla. (WFLA) – An explosion that destroyed a Hillsborough County home and left two people injured was apparently caused by a man reloading ammunition in his home.

According to Hillsborough County Fire Rescue, the man who is currently in critical condition was able to tell fire crews he was actively reloading small arms ammunition inside the house with around six pounds or more of smokeless powder near the area when the explosion took place just after 4:30 p.m. on Thursday.


What in blazes is going on here?
as well as 100 pounds of “black powder
Well a partial explanation?
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Smokeless powder does not "explode"

Welding and reloading in the same room? Are you kidding me?

If there was 100 pounds of actual black powder then that makes sense as the house exploded not caught fire and then exploded

I do keep a fire extinguisher in my reloading room. Just common sense IMO

I also load only the powder I need for the sitting in my hopper and only the 100 primers for the Dillon primer tube are at my press the rest across the room
My main powder stash is the proper wood cabinet while my small ready powder open containers are in a small wood wall mounted cabinet

Dillon has sold over 750 reloading presses and considering the many such companies I would say there are easily a million reloaders likely more and fires /events are extremely rare
Smokeless powders get harder to ignite with age while black powder becomes more and more unstable with age. Ask the USS Maine

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The Tampa Bay article was posted yesterday (10-8-2021) but the TFB article was posted on 10-23-2020. I didn't catch that right away (need more coffee this AM) but noticed that all the "Florida Man" comments were over a year old. Smells fishy...
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I just put them together for journalistic license sake.
But two K-BOOMs an almost year apart?
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Got it. I just assumed they were the same indecent but reported differently due to the lack of reporter's attention spans and attention to detail.
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Tenzing - I already posted, by way of an apology to Mr. P5Guy how I managed to misunderstand his post & appropriate warning.
Tell you what... I'll quit posting before coffee if you'll quit posting after you've chugged down your Sunday breakfast.

"Making Fun" of people is not "funny", especially people like most of us here at FSN who would be more likely to stand in a pile of spent brass protecting your six than not.
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I would be interested in learning the cause of both events.
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Bmup wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:31 pm Tenzing - I already posted, by way of an apology to Mr. P5Guy how I managed to misunderstand his post & appropriate warning.
Tell you what... I'll quit posting before coffee if you'll quit posting after you've chugged down your Sunday breakfast.

"Making Fun" of people is not "funny", especially people like most of us here at FSN who would be more likely to stand in a pile of spent brass protecting your six than not.
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My post had nothing to do with your post. P5 said to "be careful" and was asking for a possible explanation of how two explosions happened. I posted a .gif of someone smoking (which one shouldn't do around black powder), sooo....


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Wulfmann wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:14 am Smokeless powder does not "explode"

Welding and reloading in the same room? Are you kidding me?

If there was 100 pounds of actual black powder then that makes sense as the house exploded not caught fire and then exploded

I do keep a fire extinguisher in my reloading room. Just common sense IMO

I also load only the powder I need for the sitting in my hopper and only the 100 primers for the Dillon primer tube are at my press the rest across the room
My main powder stash is the proper wood cabinet while my small ready powder open containers are in a small wood wall mounted cabinet

Dillon has sold over 750 reloading presses and considering the many such companies I would say there are easily a million reloaders likely more and fires /events are extremely rare
Smokeless powders get harder to ignite with age while black powder becomes more and more unstable with age. Ask the USS Maine

Surprised Xiden didn't show up for a photo op and claims we need to ban reloading
You are right. They said something like 6 lbs of powder exploded I call BS on this and that fire marshal is an idiot. Smokeless power burns it does not explode. Unless you are trying to do something to make it explode. As you said Black powder explodes and 6 lbs of that did not blow up that house that way. That man was doing something illegal and it went boom.

I knew a fire marshal that worked a fire at a business that stored 50 lb cubes of shortening they cooked with. It was like crisco shortening. The stupid fool said it was a pour pattern. I told him he was a darn fool. That was where they store about 10 cubes of this stuff and it melted in the fire. He was a fire marshal and claimed he did not know what crisco shortening was. He said he always cooked with olive oil. This guy was in his fifties to and that was 15 years ago. I believe some of these guys are paid off by the insurance companies.

When I heard reloading and 6 lbs of powder blew up his house and fire marshal called it. What stupid idiots.

Oh yeah when getting rid of some really really old powders from gun craft. We pitched 1 pound plastic containers into fire and ran like hell. It just flashed/burned real fast no boom. Nothing like black powder I in my cannon :P I just don't see it happening unless he was trying to build a bomb or something. Even then looking at damage he'd be dead. But he darn sure was not just reloading ammo.
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