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This is America. You have the right to take an unproven and unnecessary shot if you want. It's when you want me to take it that we're going to have an issue.
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Deputydave wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:00 pm This is America. You have the right to take an unproven and unnecessary shot if you want. It's when you want me to take it that we're going to have an issue.
An improvement (barely) over your "argument" by idiotic meme, if only because I completely agree with your last sentence.
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tector wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:19 pm I was a "healthcare worker" in high school--I worked in the kitchen at (then named) Hollywood Memorial Hospital. A lot of people from our high school worked there--transportation (i.e. moving patients), janitorial, etc. All of us had to comply with hospital policies--if they were vaxxing back then, we would have had to do so, or get fired. It is no different today. Giving any credence to the decisions of "healthcare workers" is ridiculous on its face.
I do respect alot of health care workers don't take me wrong. Doctors, nurses firefighter paramedics ects. To me their size, race or religion does not matter. What matters to me the most is their ethics. Do they actually care about their job and helping others. You can tell when dealing with these people if they have a good heart. Sometimes it can really be trying. But if your heart is in the right place and you can save a life it's worth it to me anyways. In my job as a firefighter paramedic and we did talk about this among ourselves. How far would we go to save a life. How much would we sacrifice. Most of us was in the mindset....whatever it took we would do, if it was possible no matter the danger to our lives.

I've seen a few doctors, nurse, firemedics cry in private and some hold the pain in. Some I've seen could not handle the things they've seen. I went to their funerals. Yes there were some who called them cowards for doing what they did. These men I despised because they did not care about life only their careers.

To take these brave and dedicated people in these fields and demonize them because they chose to not take a shot. The very same people who just months earlier were hailed as heros for their sacrifices. By the very hypocrites now demonizing them all over a shot. This just make sick to my stomach and feels me with a hatred of a bunch of hypocrites that now betray these people and has waged war against them.

People are not born Enemies, people create enemies. Just like people are not born racist. Racist are created by racist. This evil vile entity that's seized power of our nation by corrupt means and did not even try to conceal it. They are ripping this nation apart by turning American against American using a created pandemic with over a 99% survival rate. Through propaganda they've weaponized fear now.

Attacking our medical professionals and responders. Restricting what therapeutics the public has access to that could save lives...why....numbers, money...power...what. I do know this. No government can withstand a united people. Time will tell when those these evil tyrants are trying to starve into submission by taking away their means to live free and work to provide for their families, feed their children, say enough is enough. Remember when Biden said We The People” Are The Government, Not The People I guess they will find out the more they attack the millions of Americans who these vile tyrants now say are not WE THE PEOPLE.

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Note on that statement Biden said, We The People” Are The Government, Not The People. I wonder if he meant that the 2nd amendment only applies to the government now. Something to ponder as we watch these atrocities against the American people and birth of the Socialist States of America unfold
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tector wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:00 pm
Deputydave wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:00 pm This is America. You have the right to take an unproven and unnecessary shot if you want. It's when you want me to take it that we're going to have an issue.
An improvement (barely) over your "argument" by idiotic meme, if only because I completely agree with your last sentence.
Look, here's the deal; if you want to discuss the validity of vaccines we can certainly do that. But only if you're going to be civil about it. I don't have time for snide remarks and vitriol.
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tector wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:00 pm
Deputydave wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:00 pm This is America. You have the right to take an unproven and unnecessary shot if you want. It's when you want me to take it that we're going to have an issue.
An improvement (barely) over your "argument" by idiotic meme, if only because I completely agree with your last sentence.
Yep take the vaxx. Your not allowed known therapeutics that could have saves tens of thousands of lives. Because that goes against their plan. Therapeutics are not a money maker. A vaxx that any and all decending data is not allowed and is censored. It's kind of strange that those who control the media platforms that are censoring any negative scientific research and data against this vaxx are so heavily invested in this so called vaccine.

Any scientists, doctor ect that speaks out against these vaxx is attacked on social media platforms. In some cases fired and discredited. Has this experimental vaxx even been out a year yet. The booster shot alone will generate hundreds of billions in revenue and make alot of political leaders wealthy. Not to mention the news media armies supporting it by attacking anyone who even asks a question about it.

Screw the flu shot for me. It seems to have been eradicated. Not saying others should not get it though. I'm with Deputydave on this one. It should be a choice between a patient and doctor. Not some little nazis pos Fauci that says individual rights no longer exist. We are a socialist society now
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Two weeks ago we had 86 patients admitted with COVID in our hospital.

90% of the admitted COVID patients were “unvaccinated”.

Take it as you will.
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The vaccine is your personal choice. I contracted Covid July 2020 I now just need the booster shot to become fully vaccinated. You don't want to get it don't. Don't whine when you get sick or worse.
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I had covid 6 months ago. No worse than a mild cold. Wife got vaxx 7 months ago. She's got a doctors appointment next week with some issues she's having now. Hell she was healthier than me. But I'm noticing changes in her along with the rashes
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Lucy wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:43 pm Two weeks ago we had 86 patients admitted with COVID in our hospital.

90% of the admitted COVID patients were “unvaccinated”.

Take it as you will.
The term 'unvaccinated' actually needs to be defined. Are we talking no shot at all? Are we talking one shot but no booster? There is a difference because they are counting those that have been 'vaccinated' but died within 14 days as Covid deaths. In some areas they are counting it as a Covid death if you received the shot but not the booster, or the second booster. It's just a way to cook the books to artificially inflate the numbers to keep the fear factor going. Just like last year many hospitals were caught doing things like counting a guy killed in a motorcycle accident as a Covid 'death'.
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TonyR wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:58 pm As much as I hate to say it but Tector is right.
I absolutely agree with Tector .
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