Man these riots sure have open my mind

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Man these riots sure have open my mind

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These riots and the damage that Obama caused in America have opened my eyes greatly. I'm not a hugh fan of L.E. But to say defund and get rid of L.E. is just plain stupid. Remember under OBAMA where it reached a point that L.E.O.s were getting shot and sniped.

White AMERICANS were white privileged and attacks by the LIBERAL SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS LEFT against white AMERICA who disagreed or did not believe in their ideas. Yet it was always the white conservative, white privileged blamed.

Remember the attacks against innocient conservative deplorables going to and from rallies.
Being attacked and spit upon. There was no outcry from the DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY to stop this. They blamed you and I because we brought it upon ourselves for not voting for LIBERAL SOCIALIST EXTREMISM.


All because this so called President (Obama) did everything in his power to divide this nation into catigories. Black, white, poor, rich, conservative deplorables, righteous Democrats employers against employees pretty much anything Obama could divide. He'd divide it.. There was never an in between.

Is there room for more accountability in L.E. AGENCIES
Absolutely there is. Starting with the data base on legitimate police complaints, Letters of reprimand given out. Plus holding L.E.O s personally accountable ect. Not letting L.E. AGENCIES investigate their own officers crimes. Because we've seen how that turns out. Police, policing themselves just does not sound quiet right.

Plus these stupid and corrupted police unions. That will defend these bad cops. They know broke the law.

But there must be a fair review board of these violations. Not some anti cop board. There must be protections against bias, unfair judgement against officers.

It's like someone said when they were throwing out ideas. Every officer that shoots a black person must be fired. Uh no....that's bias. If there is a legitimate reason to use deadly force. Then they must use it. To say if you shoot a black person your automatically fired. Well use your own judgement on that one.

Further more why just black people. What about white, Hispanic, Germans, Jewish you get my point. If a LEO shoots anyone, why not fire them. See how stupid that is.

Sometimes bad people no matter what race must be shot in the line of duty. But it must be a just use of deadly force.

But to refund or abolish L.E. is about the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard. I'm sure there are groups of people just itching for that to happen. Then to have your own SHERIFF or CHIEF attack you publicly for having to use any kind of force. Not against all races. Just against blacks.

Is a whole lot of ass kissing. I do not care what color you are. If you break the law. Everyone should be treated equally and race should play no factor in that.

Look at Minneapolis they are seriously putting this up. Guess who's a hugh supporter of this. Ilhan Abdullahi Omar and her compatriots. Plus the DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY is being quiet on this matter.

It was collusion with Russia, then IMPEACHMENT for interference of some kind, corona virus and calls for an investigation on how that was handled, out cry for not letting rioters or trying to stop rioters from destroying INNOCIENT AMERICANS livelihoods by looting, burning down their stores, beating INNOCIENT AMERICANS again. Even out right murdering people.

But let's investigate or call restoring law and order racist. We all supported the right to protest. It's even in the 1st Admendment to peacefully protest. But yet LEFT WING NEWS MEDIA reported. That no where does it say protest have to be peaceful. Uh yes it does. It's in the BILL OF RIGHTS. But the LEFT WING SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS does not believe in AMERICA'S CONSTITUTION and BILL OF RIGHTS

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-chri ... e-peaceful

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CNN's Chris Cuomo: "Please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful."

As riots and looting have broken out in cities across the country, this is the message the brother of New York governor Andrew Cuomo shares at the top of his show.

Critics slammed the "Cuomo Prime Time" anchor, many of them pointing to the Constitution.

"Yeah it's not like the First Amendment specifies our rights as 'peaceably to assemble,'" The Federalist publisher Ben Domenech quipped.

"Protests absolutely don't have to be polite, but the law says they must be peaceful," Washington Examiner reporter Jerry Dunleavy told Cuomo.
I've even been compared to ANTIFA for speaking out against the tyranny of our local goverments and the misuse of laws to further their own POLITICAL agendas. So to some even voicing your disdain over the actions of elected left wing officials and abuse of power can get this. Not mentioning who said this.
Just because you don’t agree with it does NOT invalidate the law. That’s shit that ANTIFA pulls.
Not quite, ANTIFA stands for nothing but hate and oppression. As noted below there are elected officials who support ANTIFA and use them against those that stand for the CONSTITUTION and the BILL OF RIGHTS. Which ANTIFA want's to destroy.

This I'm sure will work really well.
Minneapolis’ left-leaning City Council members on Sunday announced a veto-proof push to disband the Minneapolis police, even as the mayor made clear he does not support abolishing the department.

Nine members of the Minneapolis City Council pledged at a rally to dismantle the Police Department. They promised to create a new system of public safety, saying that the city’s current policing system could not be reformed. Council members say they aren’t certain exactly what policing will look like once they’re finished, and they caution plans will take a long time to execute.
Nine city council members, including Jeremiah Ellison, the son of state Attorney General Keith Ellison, who declared his support for Antifa, spoke at a protest in Minneapolis’ Powderhorn Park earlier Sunday to commit "to end policing as we know it and recreate systems that actually keep us safe."
I know exactly what it would look like without a police force. Anybody with half a brain does. Just look at the Middle East or African nations that are lawless where the government dies not back their police. It becomes a pay for protection system. You don't pay . You get no protection.
Meanwhile, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti plans to make cuts up to $150 million to the city’s police department and redistribute the money to “black communities and communities of color.”
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced over the weekend that he will be diverting funding for the New York Police Department toward social services.
The details will be worked out in the budget process in the weeks ahead. But, I want people to understand that we are committed to shifting resources to ensure that the focus is on our young people,” de Blasio said.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/defund-polic ... inneapolis

The rioting scum that hijacked this protest. Stole from it any credibility it had to stand for something. Right now you have EXTREMIST groups calling for change. Defunding or abolishing L.E. AGENCIES across America. Yep that's change alright and the LIBERAL SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC PARTY is shoveling it down by the mouth full. Not to make common sense change. But to get re-elected for the sake of power.

Hollywood just forget those bastards they hate everything that does not have DEMOCRATIC LIBERAL SOCIALIST attached to it. I guess because they miss all those parties at the WHITE HOUSE Obama invited them to.

That includes everyone of us. I assume everyone of us. Because if your pro gun, pro CONSTITUTION and the BILL OF RIGHTS surely you do not vote for any SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS DEMOCRATS. Hey hey you never know. Some are nieve enough to vote away their rights.
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When the system fails, righteous men will rise up
Its coming...be ready!

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Let the idiot progressives and their lapdog media and pandering politicians rant and rave about defunding and disbanding police forces - know what that does for us? A lot.

Just like the old saying, "there are no atheists in foxholes," there are no law abiding citizens who oppose the Second Amendment in sh*tholes. When people wake up and realize that their elected leaders are in support of putting the lunatics in charge of the asylum, people who previously never understood "why anyone needs an AR-15 and 30 round magazines" will finally understand that ultimate responsibility for the security of one's self and one's family lies with the individual and not the government. It's when the sheep feel all safe and secure that they only want the cops and the military to have guns - that tune changes quickly when there are no cops or soldiers to keep order. Self-preservation is a great motivator.

People who believe in and support gun rights already know this truth - we were either raised with it, or somewhere along the way we figured it out when we got old enough or wise enough to think for ourselves. The presence or lack of a police force doesn't overly concern us, because in the first instance, we're not running from the law, and in the second, we're prepared to take care of business ourselves if trouble comes to our doorstep.

These riots and rantings are terrible - but they are unwittingly underscoring the need for the Second Amendment that the progressives so despise.
In that regard, "keep it up, you wise guys and ass kissers - I'll hold your beer."

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Its going to get hotter before this crap cools off this time around. Keep your bags packed and ready to roll fellas as we all know it is not going to end either quietly or peacefully any time soon. Remember, cover yer 6 and keep yer powder dry.
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Dem reparations be coming. And this is fucking KENTUCKY and their new Dem governor.

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Yes, we definitively need more police, they always do such a great job watching the violence and looting from afar.
We also need more firemen to watch cities burn in their shiny trucks while safely parked behind police lines away from the fires.

More worthless low IQ government parasites is definitively going to solve this :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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I have never depended on the popo to protect me

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This time is definitely different. Soros finally got his $hit together. The MOB has taken over. All I can say is that it not going to end well.

I am waiting for the Libiturds in Mosquito County to disband the local popo. After all, Demmings is married to the Orange County Mayor and he will do whatever she says. She's the boss.

One thing I am sure of is that the "new" popo will come for all my guns as their first act.

A question I have - if there is no POPO - then I don't have to pay my property taxes, right? :roll:
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I started out as thinking this is stupid too. I learned a bit more, and it seems that (ignoring the extreme) it is much more reasonable a request, albeit poorly named. Police get money in a lump sum, drug bust, etc... They can't add an officer, that's a recurring cost, so they do the next logical thing- buy a tank. Next time there is a guy who makes a right turn with a left blinker on the police are much more likely to use the tank to stop this clearly dangerous fellow. It's the 'to a man with a hammer the whole world is a nail' thing. So, let's agree for now that this buying a tank thing is a bad idea- you can disagree with the premise later, but I need it to explain the rest.

Ok, so no tank... that money is now back up for grabs. How about it gets spent on some mental health workers who can respond in the field to calls about 'crazy Jimmy', the town homeless man who is usually hanging around the park on a bench talking to himself but occasionally ventures into the shopping area and can be a bit scary to the unfamiliar. Yes, recurring cost again- but it could be a cost saver, assuming they can deal with the needs of the individual faster and more efficiently than a law enforcer who is only trained in enforcement of law.

Next call is people loitering in the street throwing rocks at windows and carrying weapons... Ends up, its kids playing baseball in the street... Not rocks, baseballs, not weapons, baseball bats. Why not play i the park? 'Crazy Jimmy' is in the park... Another waste of time... How about we give Jimmy another place to be? A tiny apartment if he is capable of safely being in one, or a supervised living situation. Utah has shown that giving homeless free housing (no strings, no drug tests, just a place) is significantly cheaper than leaving them on the street and paying for officers, jail cells, and hospital ER visits.

Another idea is to spend the money on continuing training and increased supervision. More training on de-escalation, more training on leverage for control rather than overwhelming force to incapacitate. Increased field supervision to use real life scenarios for training...

To me at least, it does sound like a reasonable thing to start researching at least. And no, they don't (most of them at least) really mean abolish all police, decend into anarchy, and let mob justice rule the land.

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