New Zealand gun ban meets with massive non-compliance

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New Zealand gun ban meets with massive non-compliance

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Citizens of New Zealand are reportedly resisting the sweeping ban on semi-automatic firearms thrust upon them by an emotional parliament last April.
The Washington Post’s article is predictably poorly-titled: “New Zealand is trying to buy back the military-style weapons it banned in April. It’s not so easy.”
Firstly, no entity can buy “back” something which it never owned before. The government has never owned these firearms which it seeks to steal from their rightful owners. They are merely offering a bribe to those who comply.
Secondly, none of the guns are “military-style.” Being black and shaped similarly to military firearms doesn’t make a semi-auto rifle or shotgun “military-style.”
Now the good news: New Zealanders are not complying. There are an estimated “1.2 million to 1.5 million firearms in New Zealand,” yet only “about 700 firearms have been voluntarily surrendered.”
More good news: There’s no registry of semi-auto firearms in NZ, so door-to-door armed thefts of such firearms can’t be done.
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This should be the initial response to every gun ban.
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I like reading the replies. Good for the citizens of NZ screw the corrupt politicians.
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Why do so many people believe there is no national registry in the US? If the feds can track the ownership of firearms used in a crime through multiple owners, there is a registry. Consider the simply idea of tracking any brand or model by consecutive serial numbers. Every new firearm went through the FFL registration. Every purchaser would be identified by name and address. They may miss a few old firearms or something passed through generations or yard sales but they would get the vast majority. That's part of the clamor for universal background checks for ALL transfers, sales, gifts. Find out where the firearms are and who has them.
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Why does a background check even care what the firearm is? Is any gun going to make a difference in a standard bgc? Nope, just a backdoor way of registration.
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Waiting for UN to go door to door in NZ
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P5 Guy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:40 am Waiting for UN to go door to door in NZ
I don't see that happening in any reality except fucked up fever dreams. Not sure you realize just how incompetent the UN and UN troops are.
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Skoll wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:49 am
P5 Guy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:40 am Waiting for UN to go door to door in NZ
I don't see that happening in any reality except fucked up fever dreams. Not sure you realize just how incompetent the UN and UN troops are.
Being facetious, the only effective peace keepers the UN has are American troops. That would be great practice for Swawell (sp?) while nuking my neighborhood.
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n0rlf wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:31 pm Why does a background check even care what the firearm is? Is any gun going to make a difference in a standard bgc? Nope, just a backdoor way of registration.
Nowhere during the background check is any model of firearm, or serial # mentioned. Simply the owner’s name, birthday, and SS number[optional]. He could buy a Ruger 10 22, or Scar 17. The background people never know what is being purchased. Also, after 72 hours, any records of the background check must be purged from the FDLE system. And should a gun be found at the scene of a crime, the police have no idea who it belongs to. They must call the mfr, say S&W, & ask them who did they ship 9 mm Shield, ser # ABC123 to. They will reply Davidson’s. Then the police will call Davidson’s & ask the same question. They will reply Bob’s Gun Shop. Then the police will call Bob’s, & ask the same question. They will reply Jim Smith bought the gun. Remember, the 4473’s sit in the gunstore until the owner retires, or sells the store. So there is no database on who owns what. The exception is for a multiple handgun purchase. Then the ATF is notified immediately that Jim Smith bought 2 handguns with all the details, & serial numbers. GARY.
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P5 Guy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:50 am
Skoll wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:49 am
P5 Guy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:40 am Waiting for UN to go door to door in NZ
I don't see that happening in any reality except fucked up fever dreams. Not sure you realize just how incompetent the UN and UN troops are.
Being facetious, the only effective peace keepers the UN has are American troops. That would be great practice for Swawell (sp?) while nuking my neighborhood.
I apologize. I see a lot of 100% OMG THE BLUE HELMETS ARE COMING!!!!!111 from people and it never ceases to make me roll my eyes.
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Skoll wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:17 am
P5 Guy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:50 am
Skoll wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:49 am

I don't see that happening in any reality except fucked up fever dreams. Not sure you realize just how incompetent the UN and UN troops are.
Being facetious, the only effective peace keepers the UN has are American troops. That would be great practice for Swawell (sp?) while nuking my neighborhood.
I apologize. I see a lot of 100% OMG THE BLUE HELMETS ARE COMING!!!!!111 from people and it never ceases to make me roll my eyes.
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