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Kentucky Gov Signs bill for concealed gun carry...

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:33 am
by photohause
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/n ... 137955002/

Gov. Matt Bevin signed into law Monday a bill that lets people carry a concealed gun without getting a permit or completing a background check and safety training first.

Senate Bill 150 was backed by the National Rifle Association but opposed by groups such as Louisville Metro Police and the Kentucky State Fraternal Order of Police.

State law had required people to get a permit before carrying a concealed firearm.

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That process involved undergoing a background check, completing some gun safety training and paying a $60 fee.

SB 150 axes the permit requirement for anyone who's at least 21 years old and who meets other legal rules for gun ownership.

Proponents of SB 150, such as lead sponsor Sen. Brandon Smith, R-Hazard, noted that people in Kentucky already are allowed to openly carry a gun without a permit.

They also pointed to the current permit process and mandatory fees as barriers that prevent poor people — and especially poor minorities — from carrying a concealed firearm for self-defense.

But opponents, including some law enforcement groups and the Kentucky chapter of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, have expressed concerns with SB 150 over the lack of required training.

Kentuckians still will have the option to get a concealed carry permit with the passage of SB 150. Many other states require the permits and honor those issued in Kentucky, which is one reason someone might still want to get one.

Chris W. Cox, National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action executive director, thanked Bevin in a statement "for his leadership on this critical issue."

"This law is a common-sense measure that allows law-abiding citizens to exercise their fundamental right of self-protection in the manner that best suits their needs," Cox said.

Tim Schmidt, U.S. Concealed Carry Association president, said in a statement that making it easier "for law-abiding Americans to carry a concealed weapon upholds the values of the Second Amendment and makes our country a safer place."

"Responsibly-armed Americans are often the first line of defense in active shooter situations and government at all levels should be supporting them," Schmidt said.

Others reacted to Bevin's decision to sign SB 150 with harsher words.

On Twitter, Fred Guttenberg — whose daughter was one of 17 victims in last year's Parkland, Florida, school shooting — wrote: "Dear Twitter friends who are marketers, can someone please come up with a graphic for Kentucky that says 'Due to the unsafe conditions that may cost you your life, visitors are unwelcome in Kentucky.'"

Re: Kentucky Gov Signs bill for concealed gun carry...

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:35 am
by P5 Guy
Marion Hammer where are you?

Re: Kentucky Gov Signs bill for concealed gun carry...

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:37 am
by Skoll
P5 Guy wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:35 am
Marion Hammer where are you?
Busy telling the NYT how terrible NRA TV is.

Re: Kentucky Gov Signs bill for concealed gun carry...

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:18 pm
by Miami_JBT
P5 Guy wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:35 am
Marion Hammer where are you?
Throwing in the towel on Nikki Fried (D) and watching Senate President Bill Galvano (R) and House Speaker Jose Oliva (R) be anti gun.

Re: Kentucky Gov Signs bill for concealed gun carry...

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:51 am
by Dr. Dickie
whereas I applaud them for this.
They also pointed to the current permit process and mandatory fees as barriers that prevent poor people — and especially poor minorities — from carrying a concealed firearm for self-defense.
A $60 fee prevents them from getting a permit? BS, these folks have Iphones, flat-screen TVs, computers, and usually news cars than I do.
I appreciate the fact that they did it, but let's be a bit honest and quit using BS excuses for things. That come back to bite you when you do.

Re: Kentucky Gov Signs bill for concealed gun carry...

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:03 am
by P5 Guy
A $60 fee prevents them from getting a permit?
Same goes for buying a photo ID voter registration.

Re: Kentucky Gov Signs bill for concealed gun carry...

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:51 am
by Dr. Dickie
P5 Guy wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:03 am
A $60 fee prevents them from getting a permit?
Same goes for buying a photo ID voter registration.
Right, same BS excuse. And no one seems to call them on it.
Racist as hell saying that minorities are prevented from voting because they don't have ID. Illegal aliens might be prevented from voting due to no ID, be even there I bet it is like 0.1% that are prevented.

Re: Kentucky Gov Signs bill for concealed gun carry...

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:16 pm
by photohause
carry a concealed gun without getting a permit or completing a background check and safety training first.

This doesn't bother any of you?

Re: Kentucky Gov Signs bill for concealed gun carry...

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:44 pm
by ulyrider
photohause wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:16 pm
carry a concealed gun without getting a permit or completing a background check and safety training first.

This doesn't bother any of you?
No, because "shall not be infringed."

Re: Kentucky Gov Signs bill for concealed gun carry...

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:34 pm
by wjbarricklow
photohause wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:16 pm
carry a concealed gun without getting a permit or completing a background check and safety training first.

This doesn't bother any of you?
Not a bit. Criminals are already carrying guns without permits. Idiots are going to take the $35 gun show course and continue to be idiots. Responsible people are going to seek out training. Nothing would change.