Cody Wilson charged with sexual assault

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Skoll wrote:We don't have an extradition agreement with Taiwan. We give them a shitload of military aid though.
Slartibartfast wrote:apparently the U.S. voided his passport making his stay
in Taiwan illegal.
Our tax dollars at work.
And how the f* is it the government can dictate a United States citizen’s freedom of movement? Can somebody please cite the relevant section in our Constitution granting the federal government that power? Citizens aren’t immigrants, so don’t even go there. We are more like feudal serfs in the government’s eyes.
No, not defending the guy, just focusing attention on an underlying issue that could affect any “free” citizen traveling abroad from the U.S..
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dammitgriff wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:43 pm
Skoll wrote:We don't have an extradition agreement with Taiwan. We give them a shitload of military aid though.
Slartibartfast wrote:apparently the U.S. voided his passport making his stay
in Taiwan illegal.
Our tax dollars at work.
And how the f* is it the government can dictate a United States citizen’s freedom of movement? Can somebody please cite the relevant section in our Constitution granting the federal government that power? Citizens aren’t immigrants, so don’t even go there. We are more like feudal serfs in the government’s eyes.
No, not defending the guy, just focusing attention on an underlying issue that could affect any “free” citizen traveling abroad from the U.S..

Article IV, Section 2, Clause 2:

A person charged in any state with treason, felony, or other crime, who shall flee from justice, and be found in another state, shall on demand of the executive authority of the state from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.
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Tenzing_Norgay wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:38 pm No, not defending the guy, just focusing attention on an underlying issue that could affect any “free” citizen traveling abroad from the U.S..
Article IV, Section 2, Clause 2:

A person charged in any state with treason, felony, or other crime, who shall flee from justice, and be found in another state, shall on demand of the executive authority of the state from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.
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That only applies INSIDE THE USA.

https://www.justice.gov/jm/jm-9-15000-i ... s#9-15.100

International extradition is the formal process by which a person found in one country is surrendered to another country for trial or punishment. The process is regulated by treaty and conducted between the Federal Government of the United States and the government of a foreign country. It differs considerably from interstate rendition, commonly referred to as interstate extradition, mandated by the Constitution, Art. 4, Sec. 2.

Generally under U. S. law (18 U.S.C. § 3184), extradition may be granted only pursuant to a treaty. However, some countries grant extradition without a treaty, and of those that do, most require an offer of reciprocity. Further, 18 U.S.C. 3181 and 3184 permit the United States to extradite, without regard to the existence of a treaty, persons (other than citizens, nationals or permanent residents of the United States), who have committed crimes of violence against nationals of the United States in foreign countries. A list of countries with which the United States has an extradition treaty relationship can be found in the Federal Criminal Code and Rules, following 18 U.S.C. § 3181, but consult the Criminal Division's Office of International Affairs (OIA) to verify the accuracy of the information.
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