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I'd like to know how you guys secure your carry piece when you're in your vehicle.

I work in healthcare and do not carry at work. My pistol goes in an Uncle Mike's cheapy holster and then into my duffle bag. Once in the vehicle, it either goes into my driver's side door pocket in my car, or in the center empty space under the cd player in the SUV.

I feel fairly comfortable accessing it in the SUV because it is near my right shooting hand, however the gun slides around at times under acceleration or faster turning. Not really a big problem but don't like the possibility of it accidentally becoming visible at an unwanted time. The car is a bigger problem because the door pocket is on my left side and requires somewhat obvious/exaggerated movement to get it accessible.

When I carry on my person it is usually IWB and at 5 o'clock. This is also not an easily/quickly accessible location.

I would like an option where I would have it secured in such a manner that I will have fast and easy access and someone approaching the vehicle closely would not be able to tell that I was reaching for anything.

I was considering the strap type holster that holds the gun to the front of the seat between my legs, or perhaps a velcro type holster that could be mounted to the dash to the right of the steering column.

What do you guys find works best?

Go to...
http://www.andrewsleather.com/
look for the carjacker holster.

Fobus UVM Roto Special Accessories Universal Mount Vehicle & Home
http://www.google.com/products/catalog? ... GcQ8wIwAA#

I used to keep one in a work van. Just tie-wrapped a regular old thumb break holster to the rack behind the seat. Another option would be to screw it in somewhere, like under the dash.

Don't they make a gun magnet mount? Don't know much about it but might work for your needs.

Enoch wrote:I'd like to know how you guys secure your carry piece when you're in your vehicle.

I work in healthcare and do not carry at work. My pistol goes in an Uncle Mike's cheapy holster and then into my duffle bag. Once in the vehicle, it either goes into my driver's side door pocket in my car, or in the center empty space under the cd player in the SUV.

I feel fairly comfortable accessing it in the SUV because it is near my right shooting hand, however the gun slides around at times under acceleration or faster turning. Not really a big problem but don't like the possibility of it accidentally becoming visible at an unwanted time. The car is a bigger problem because the door pocket is on my left side and requires somewhat obvious/exaggerated movement to get it accessible.

When I carry on my person it is usually IWB and at 5 o'clock. This is also not an easily/quickly accessible location.

I would like an option where I would have it secured in such a manner that I will have fast and easy access and someone approaching the vehicle closely would not be able to tell that I was reaching for anything.

I was considering the strap type holster that holds the gun to the front of the seat between my legs, or perhaps a velcro type holster that could be mounted to the dash to the right of the steering column.

What do you guys find works best?

That door pocket doesn't seem to qualify as "securely encased" to me, nor does the center empty space (unless it has a door/lid of some type):

(17) “Securely encased” means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.001.html

And it is no longer on your person, so you don't have that out.

Just sayin'....

I don't know what the door pocket looks like, or what that other compartment looks like, but if it's concealed and within reach, he should be okay with his permit. It's still "on or about" his person.

wjbarricklow wrote:I don't know what the door pocket looks like, or what that other compartment looks like, but if it's concealed and within reach, he should be okay with his permit. It's still "on or about" his person.

Without a lid or door, I don't know how that dash compartment qualifies--you may be right on the door pocket.

If not on me then in my center console. Wifes vehicle has no center console so most of the time on me but have had it in her glove box at times. I like lakelandmans universal mount idea. That might work mounted in a cooler or toolbox which you can keep next to you in your work van. I might try adding the mount inside my center console (truck so big enough).

Folks tend to get tunnel vision in defense and rely on a firearm as a primary weapon in a bad situation. A firearm does have it's limitations in very close confrontations that the proper edged weapon can give you enough space to either turn away the assailant or give you the space to draw your primary weapon. I carry a double edged push knife horizontally on my belt at 11 o'clock and my firearm at 3 o'clock. While on foot and have a strong side and weak side weapon that can be deployed depending on the situation. While in a car the I can unholster my primary and tuck in a secure spot near my strong side and still have a weak side weapon that can be deployed with either hand in very short order to give the distance I would feel comfortable to draw my primary.
This is a little off topic from what holster to have in a car but that all depends on the car. really just find a secure spot and stick to it. The most important is having it in the same spot and know where it is and how you will retain it it in something as close as a assault in your car.

tector wrote:That door pocket doesn't seem to qualify as "securely encased" to me, nor does the center empty space (unless it has a door/lid of some type):

(17) “Securely encased” means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.001.html

And it is no longer on your person, so you don't have that out.

Just sayin'....

Good point Tector. Neither the door pocket nor the console area are enclosed or have a lid. I am actually aware of that statute, but like wjbarricklow mentioned, I've assumed (or maybe I should say "hoped"), that my CW license would be the overriding consideration. I would say that without license it should definitely be in enclosed compartment.

I've been stopped by LEO twice for traffic violations over the last 5 years and both times the pistol was in my door pocket. I didn't have any issues with this. I realize this is a small sample-size though.

Thanks also for the links and suggestions gentleman.

Enoch wrote:Good point Tector. Neither the door pocket nor the console area are enclosed or have a lid. I am actually aware of that statute, but like wjbarricklow mentioned, I've assumed (or maybe I should say "hoped"), that my CW license would be the overriding consideration. I would say that without license it should definitely be in enclosed compartment.

In that case, both locations are a violation of FS 790.001(17) with or without a license.

mjmensale wrote:

Enoch wrote:Good point Tector. Neither the door pocket nor the console area are enclosed or have a lid. I am actually aware of that statute, but like wjbarricklow mentioned, I've assumed (or maybe I should say "hoped"), that my CW license would be the overriding consideration. I would say that without license it should definitely be in enclosed compartment.

In that case, both locations are a violation of FS 790.001(17) with or without a license.

Why with the license? The weapon is concealed in the door pocket and about the person.

mikecu wrote:Why with the license? The weapon is concealed in the door pocket and about the person.

Because it's not "securely encased" per the defintions. See Gutmacher, 7th edition, page 87.

mjmensale wrote:

Enoch wrote:Good point Tector. Neither the door pocket nor the console area are enclosed or have a lid. I am actually aware of that statute, but like wjbarricklow mentioned, I've assumed (or maybe I should say "hoped"), that my CW license would be the overriding consideration. I would say that without license it should definitely be in enclosed compartment.

In that case, both locations are a violation of FS 790.001(17) with or without a license.

Not if the cheapy holster has a flap or thumbbreak, although I wouldn't push the issue.

limestonecowboy wrote:Not if the cheapy holster has a flap or thumbbreak, although I wouldn't push the issue.

Yes but he didn't clarify whether it does or doesn't.

silly question, but whats wrong with in the holster on your hip ?

Tim

mjmensale wrote:

limestonecowboy wrote:Not if the cheapy holster has a flap or thumbbreak, although I wouldn't push the issue.

Yes but he didn't clarify whether it does or doesn't.

Yes I always keep it in the holster to keep the trigger covered. The cheapy holster also has a cheapy velcro thumb break. I guess this would keep me compliant with the statute as I read it.

When I first read it, I misinterpreted it as stating that it needed to be in a closed compartment EVEN IF it was in a holster or zippered case.

As I read it again, those are semi-colons, not commas... So it reads that it must be in a glove compartment OR snapped holster, OR zippered case, etc.

Anyone disagree with this interpretation?

I don't disagree, but I expect you'd get hooked up for it regardless. I still hear LEOs quote the "three step rule", so out of sight is out of mind.

ETA I mean if a LEO saw a handgun, even holstered with a snap, in the pocket or on the center console, there is a fair chance you will get hassled for it.