Florida Shooters Network

Some may remember, I sent a letter to the ATF on February 14th, 2008 asking for clarification about shipping a firearm between two unlicensed parties in the same state via a "private shipper". As in another member here as a courier.

Well, they FINALLY got back to me with a letter today reiterating what we all expected to hear. In a nutshell, it is perfectly legal. I'll post the letter in it's entirety tomorrow when I get back to work and scan it in.
This might be a handy letter to have in the car just in case someone is performing courier duty for two other members. The letter is signed by the chief, firearms programs division.

Edit, link to ATF letter
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0PISXXS1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Outstanding! Great work man, Now we know for sure.

Hey Jon, was the scenario that you painted one where the buyer paid the seller separately or was the courier to act like an "escrow agent" to pay the seller upon delivery of the gun?

ss1 wrote:Hey Jon, was the scenario that you painted one where the buyer paid the seller separately or was the courier to act like an "escrow agent" to pay the seller upon delivery of the gun?

Separate payment arrangements. Just like if you tendered it to UPS.

I would assume if you gave the money to the "transporter" to act as an escrow it would really be two transfers of title. Once to the escrow agent and once to the end user when it was transported wherever. I would think this would be an even more legitimate process as all t he firearms transactions were face to face. Assuming all parties involved could legally purchase and own said firearm.

aquajon wrote:Separate payment arrangements. Just like if you tendered it to UPS.

I would assume if you gave the money to the "transporter" to act as an escrow it would really be two transfers of title. Once to the escrow agent and once to the end user when it was transported wherever. I would think this would be an even more legitimate process as all t he firearms transactions were face to face. Assuming all parties involved could legally purchase and own said firearm.

On the flipside, if you acted as courier and escrow agent often enough, it could land you in some issues as well if that's how they view it. I don't think under UCC law, title is actually passed to the escrow agent, but I'd think you would just want to just handle the transportation just in case.

Thanks for taking the time to check Jon

GOOD JOB jon!!!

Thanks Aqua.

Thanks man

letter uploaded, put on first post.

Just bumping this up.

In case anyone prefers more traditional image's instead of the above PDF link.
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3938/atfcourier.png
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/6429/atfcourier2.png

This needs to be tagged to the information resource board.

rug357 wrote:This needs to be tagged to the information resource board.

+1 (that was my initial thought)

Awesome stuff. You actually got the Federal Government to APOLOGIZE to you!

WTG!

I will upload it on the server because it is an important paper for us all. However, only the address' name has been blackened. I need to blacken the one just below.

fantastic,
now to figure out who is traveling and willing to do this...

Ive done it before... and im willing to do it again for members I know on here, or others who are long term members can vouch for. Glad to know i didnt commit any sort of crime...!

I just clicked on the Megaupload link in the first post and there was a FBI notice that the domain was siezed for piracy.

#1Glock30 wrote:I just clicked on the Megaupload link in the first post and there was a FBI notice that the domain was siezed for piracy.

Have you been living under a rock the last two weeks?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/enterta ... -feds.html