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Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby poloboy821 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:37 pm

http://www.amazon.com/Pro-techs-conceal ... _ai_ps_t_1

I am wanting to pick one up as an option for truck carry. With the thumb break snap would this constitute a secured fire arm? I have my cwp if that makes any difference.
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Re: Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby ErichF » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:53 pm

With your CCW, it should be good to go, as long as its (get this) concealed from view from the outside of the vehicle. That is my interpretation, and I invite others to share theirs since I've considered the same holster. Reviews say it doesn't fit well on some full size truck seats...
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Re: Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby Enoch » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:54 pm

see here... I'm still not sure :-k vehicle-holster-other-methods-t94405.html
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Re: Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby ErichF » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:59 pm

Well, maybe not...
http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/FLSL.pdf

I think that the CCW only allows you to have it ON YOU. If it's not physically on your person, it still needs to be ENCASED...meaning glovebox, console, gun case (soft or hard) or vehicular safe.
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Re: Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby poloboy821 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:09 pm

Enoch wrote:see here... I'm still not sure :-k vehicle-holster-other-methods-t94405.html

I remember reading that one and you are right, i am not sure after that thread either.. :-k
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Re: Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby birdman » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:35 pm

Should be okay with or without CWFL as F.S.790.25 (3)(l) states
LAWFUL USES.—The provisions of ss. 790.053 and 790.06 do not apply in the following instances, and, despite such sections, it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes:...
(l) A person traveling by private conveyance when the weapon is securely encased or in a public conveyance when the weapon is securely encased and not in the person’s manual possession;
and F.S.790.01(17) defines "securely encased" as
“Securely encased” means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access.


If the gun is in a snapped holster it is by definition "securely encased" and if it's "securely encased" then you're legal whether or not you have a CWFL. Now if you don't have a CWFL you may be in a gray area if the gun is so close to you as to be on your person and the gun is concealed from view. I'm not an attorney so don't take my say so as gospel...

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Re: Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby GLoCKeYeD » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:39 pm

id say it meets the "securely encased" requirement. no CCW needed
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Re: Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby poloboy821 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:59 pm

I think i will just carry a copy of the statute with me in case i ever get pulled over and questioned about it.
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Re: Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby aquajon » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:19 pm

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Re: Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby speed_racer » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:02 am

That IS securely encased.

Can't be readily available to you or a passenger, AFAIK.

I'd say it's good to go.

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Re: Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby mjmensale » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:22 am

poloboy821 wrote:
Enoch wrote:see here... I'm still not sure :-k vehicle-holster-other-methods-t94405.html

I remember reading that one and you are right, i am not sure after that thread either.. :-k


If you read the very last post in that thread you'll see where I asked Jon Gutmacher directly about this. In your vehicle with a CWFL, you can carry it on you OR have it securely encased. A snapped holster meets the requirement for securely encased so that seat holster would be legal. The NRA shop sells a similar item that attaches to your dashboard under the steering wheel but you supply the holster. A snapped holster would work with that also. As far as concealed from normal view, that would be using good discretion.
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Re: Is this a legal means for vehicle carry?

Postby Enoch » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:17 am

mjmensale wrote:
poloboy821 wrote:
Enoch wrote:see here... I'm still not sure :-k vehicle-holster-other-methods-t94405.html

I remember reading that one and you are right, i am not sure after that thread either.. :-k


If you read the very last post in that thread you'll see where I asked Jon Gutmacher directly about this. In your vehicle with a CWFL, you can carry it on you OR have it securely encased. A snapped holster meets the requirement for securely encased so that seat holster would be legal. The NRA shop sells a similar item that attaches to your dashboard under the steering wheel but you supply the holster. A snapped holster would work with that also. As far as concealed from normal view, that would be using good discretion.


Ahh haa... Thanks Moe! :ber

Yeah, I would think that if you get pulled over by LEO, openly secured/encased may be LEGAL, but the experience may not be enjoyable [smilie=011.gif]
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