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by **Rentprop1** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:52 pm

been looking/searching around for a while ](*,)

..... I always thought it was Illegal to carry concealed a Rifle for PD

so is it YES or NO and I need a statute to back it up, I tried searching rifle in 790 and didn't find it ??

anyone have it ??

by **jwperry** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:52 pm

Florida Statute 790.06 wrote:For the purposes of this section, concealed weapons or concealed firearms are defined as a handgun, electronic weapon or device, tear gas gun, knife, or billie, but the term does not include a machine gun as defined in s.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/ind ... tm#0790.06

by **flcracker** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:12 pm

.....as Rent drools even more over the idea of a FAL pistol. :ber

by **Rentprop1** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:22 am

so by definition of Handgun , is a rifle caliber pistol skating the line ??

by **Casual** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:35 am

I cant find anything in gutmachers book saying you cant .....
:-k

by **ipscscott** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:40 am

you'll also note that nowhere in the statute does it mention AOW. [smilie=033.gif]

by **Casual** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:08 am

Heres a thought... all you people that have NFA trusts set up for SBR or AOW etc... you have a CWL not the trust entity . You don't own the SBR, the trust does.... :-k

so can you carry a SBR,sbs AOW? Eh.......?

by **jwperry** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:33 am

Rentprop1 wrote:so by definition of Handgun , is a rifle caliber pistol skating the line ??

I was thinking this as well. Handgun and pistol are generally synonymous terms, but I wonder if their definition is different? I'm not sure, but in my head an AR pistol is not a handgun, but does receive the same treatment on a 4473.

Legal jargon. ](*,)

by **g.willikers** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:48 am

Gotta' think the reaction from citizen and cop would be very different than for a regular type handgun, if it were seen or called into action.

by **Mr. Smith** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:14 pm

I don’t think that a “rifle caliber” would be skating the line at all.

I’ll bet that more .22 long RIFLE cartridges are used for the purpose of rifle shooting than pistol – does that make it a “rifle caliber?” So if some individual shoots a 30 caliber carbine cartridge in his/her revolver does that make it iffy to carry concealed? There is a .50 BMG pistol – is that legally iffy to carry concealed?

I don’t think so.

The one thing that the law has going for it are definitions; if it’s NOT a rifle, or an NFA or AOW type firearm then its got to be a pistol –regardless of the caliber.

In my not-so-humble opinion, of course.
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Smith

by **mjmensale** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:23 pm

jwperry wrote:Handgun and pistol are generally synonymous terms, but I wonder if their definition is different?

Neither term is defined in the statutes but "firearms" is.

by **Kender** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:52 pm

How about all the derringers that shoot .410, or the Taurus Judge for that matter, it's obviously a pistol regardless of what it shoots. I think that given the absence of a FL defined handgun clause they would have to interpret it in favor of the citizenry..... or at worst default to the atf's definition. IIRC their definition states that a handgun is designed to be shot with one hand, which is why adding a front vertical grip on certain handguns causes a SBR issue.....the front vertical grip gives a specific spot for a 2nd hand which "proves" it was designed to be used that way. I say "proves" because it doesn't "prove" the design intent any more than a speedometer with a mark at 120mph "proves" that my truck was designed to be used at that speed.

by **thorazine** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:30 pm

What about CCW flashbangs?

Assuming they are on the NFA books and you have a valid concealed carry permit?

by **yeros68** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:47 pm

Seems like a fuzzy area. Wouldn't you have to be about 7 feet tall to carry a concealed rifle. What happens when you are seated while driving or dining out?

by **Dave P** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:27 pm

Say fella, is that a rifle in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me??? [smilie=cheers1.gif]

by **Rentprop1** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:12 pm

think of an AR pistol, snug shoulder sling, like under your armpit and a jacket ?? :-k

or back pack carry like the 5.11 covert M4 or the Select carry sling pack ??
http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products ... COVRT.html

maybe even smaller if you have one of those new RRA pistol AR pistols

by **BMW GUY** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:39 pm

Rentprop1 wrote:think of an AR pistol, snug shoulder sling, like under your armpit and a jacket ??

or back pack carry like the 5.11 covert M4 or the Select carry sling pack ??
http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products ... COVRT.html

maybe even smaller if you have one of those new RRA pistol AR pistols

What are your planing ?

by **itsnunya** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:27 am

Rentprop1 wrote:think of an AR pistol, snug shoulder sling, like under your armpit and a jacket ??

or back pack carry like the 5.11 covert M4 or the Select carry sling pack ??
http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products ... COVRT.html

maybe even smaller if you have one of those new RRA pistol AR pistols

Or an AK with a side folder, slightly longer than the ar pistol, but the same concept applies....the AK Folder fits into the Ruck.... [smilie=011.gif]

by **poloboy821** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:19 am

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/show ... p?t=249281

Thats how i carry [smilie=011.gif]

by **Rentprop1** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:42 pm

BMW GUY wrote:
What are your planing ?

a large withdraw at a bank [smilie=033.gif]

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