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Here's one taught to me by a Korean Army instructor.
You need a friend.

Stand straight up pistol holstered.
Freind standing on your strong side.
Have your friend knock you on your ass HARD!!!

You have one second to draw and fire.

AFS

But won't you run out of friends pretty quick doing that?

g.willikers wrote:But won't you run out of friends pretty quick doing that?

Just wound him so he can warn the others...

I did say standing at your SIDE

AFS

g.willikers wrote:Last spring or summer, there was an interview on the Gunalk podcast, with the MP who stopped a shooter at a base hospital.
The shooter, using a rifle, had shot a bunch of folks before the MP got there.
As the MP was approaching the building, the shooter saw him and started shooting at him, from quite a distance away.
The MP, armed with his service 9mm pistol, just started shooting back.
The rifleman missed, the MP didn't.
He said he just forgot about the bullets flying, took aim and fired quickly, hitting the shooter and ending the attack.
Nothing fancy, just the basics, that were well practiced.
And some strong nerves.

It was Air Force Security Policeman Senior Airman Andy Brown on bike patrol in base housing. He took four shots from 70 yards after riding his bike to the scene; he hit the shooter in the shoulder and head twice.


http://fairchildhospitalshooting.com/page3.php



On the OP; I prefer to use position rather than stance. IMO, stand infers static; you should be positioning yourself for movement to get off the X. Position yourself however you need to in order to make the shot and move.

Rentprop1 wrote:I draw from the holster shoot one round, twirl my pistol a couple time and put it back





and thats with a Glock too

Didn't you make a YouTube video of this? Btw your badge is shiny.

I don't pay attention to stances and grips with fancy names. I use whatever it takes to make the shot with the particular gun I am using.

When standing the only thing a can say I do/preach while working with kids/wife is "nose over toes and be more aggressive with pointing muzzle @ target "

Agree with all whatever stance works for you in a self defense situation is best as long as you hit what you are aiming at. Original intent of post was I noticed most shooters on the range I have observed tend to take a squared off flat (isosceles) type of stance as opposed to a combat type of stance that lends itself (in my opinion) to being able to move about freely...

If the so called isosceles stance prevents fast movement, it's not the stance itself that's at fault.
More than likely, there's flaws in the execution.
Check out any of the run n' gun videos and see how fast those folks get from place to place.
They mostly all use the isosceles stance when shooting, even while on the move.

I highly recommend anyone interested in self defense takes a force on force class using simunitions. They are real eye openers and do a great job at showing you what is most likely to happen in a self defense scenario.

I learned the importance of shooting strong hand only, while moving, from very non-traditional positions.

One handed shooting served Wild Bill Hickock pretty good.
Another excellent interview, on a past guntalk show, was with a veteran police officer from one of the large Midwestern cities - Chicago, maybe.
And he said that they learned the hard way that most encounters, with the really nasty folks they went after, involved mostly one handed shooting.
The other hand was invariably occupied with something other than the gun.
And that's what they trained for, one handed shooting for the vitals, especially for the head, from all kinds of clumsy positions - all with either hand, too.
He said that kind of training served them well and made all the difference in surviving gun battles.

We can train all we want and tend to say "training will kick in" ; that can only be accomplished thru dynamic training. Stances are not the norm that i teach for the reaction and action of any person will vary depending on MIND SET wich is more important than a stance. preparing for an aggresive engagement (God forbid) is more dependent on some basic fundamentals of human belief as encountered under stress. Therefore unconventional shooting and or training i believe to be more advantageous if the time should come. just my 2cnts.

I had put this in the General Info section awhile back, but it's very pertinent to this conversation:
He says his experience with lots of IDPA matches helped him deal with, and survive, the situations he encountered in war.
An interview with an Marine veteran of eleven gunfights:
http://www.handgunworld.com/?paged=2
Episode 157 - "A real gunfight"

Vinnie357 wrote:Curious on your comments. When I practice at the range I shoot a modified weaver/self defense bladed type of stance (not isosceles). I'm more concerned with how I would react in a self defense type of situation. Do you alter your stance based upon target vs self defense or do you shoot the same stance regardless?

Always same.

One hand held out holding a subway sandwich.

While the other is drawing and firing.

AirForceShooter wrote:Here's one taught to me by a Korean Army instructor.
You need a friend.

Stand straight up pistol holstered.
Freind standing on your strong side.
Have your friend knock you on your ass HARD!!!

You have one second to draw and fire.

AFS

Then you have to find a new friend, right?