Slimy Scott Push Poll - Proves he's A Scammer

[Onree]

Gosh there's gonna be a lot of money spent of Green and Scott go head-to-head. Just image how good that'll be for the economy.

[P5 guy]

I stand corrected.
But my opinion of all them varmints running isn't very high.
Why can't we have a better choices? I'm beginning to favor term limits just to see a fresh face on the TV during the endless campaign season. Ten years in elected or appointed government office and out , no pension until 65. Get a real effing job .

[avmech]

Gosh there's gonna be a lot of money spent of Green and Scott go head-to-head. Just image how good that'll be for the economy.

They are running for different offices: Green US Senate, Scott governor

[mjmensale]

Ultimately for many voters, it will come down to trust. Can these privileged candidates be trusted more than traditional politicians to fight for those who are struggling?

And therein lies the conundrum. Until The People start fielding "their own" we will be stuck with the career politicians and the wealthy individuals who can buy their elections.

All for that little 5 letter word - p o w e r.

[Onree]

They are running for different offices: Green US Senate, Scott governor

Guess I would have known that if I had taken the time to read the blah blah blah about the Democrat.

I guess we'll just have to settle for a Royal-Rumble Main Event then.

[biged150]

Why is it that everyone focuses on Scott ripping off medicare when it was actually "individuals" within the company and not "the company" as a whole. Point two, who here has any experience with how things are billed to medicare as per the "government regulations"? Let me tell ya, I've got some experience with it and while one regulation says "do it this way" or "this is covered under this", another regulation somewhere else counters that information and even if you thing you're following the law, you could very well be in violation of the law by a totally separate regulation - there is zero accountability within government yet they expect businesses to be error free. Last point on this topic, IF Scott was actually "guilty" of ordering the fraud to take place, why then did the govt not prosecute him personally? Answer is simple, they had no evidence which means he is "innocent until proven guilty" ... or does that only apply when it's "your" ass on the line?

While you're busy poo poo'ing Scott for a crime he obviously didn't commit, why are you not questioning McCollum's involvement with the bribery ring involving islamic terrorist and known terrorist supporters?

Furthermore, after 30 years in politics and sucking off the taxpayer's tit, why does McCollum not have a single positive thing to say about his own record? Oh, that's right, he wished to keep his constant flip-flopping hidden since his position changes every time a new poll comes out.

Hey, at least Scott actually worked for a living, that's more than you can say about the career politician McCollum .... 250 days of missed work in just three years .... no wonder he's got nothing to say about his own record!

Even if I accept everything you just pointed out about the problems with Medicare as an excuse for Scotts' problems when he was CEO, please answer either of the following questions:

(1) If managing and billing under current law are so difficult and confusing, then why is it that not all companies are convicted of fraud? My doctor has one billing assistant who handles Medicare billing. She grumbles about the paperwork and fees, but she gets the job done. The level of fraud in Columbia/HCA is by its nature an indication that this was corporate policy, not one3 or two individuals. And who sets corporate policy?
(2) If Scott didn't know his company was defrauding the U.S. (they DID plead guilty, and Scott often says that he accepts responsibility for crimes committed on his watch), then why didn't he know about it and why would he "accept responsibility" for those crimes?

The answer to your question about why Scott wasn't personally charged is simple - no individual was charged in the case. Does that mean that no individual was involved in the crimes that resulted in a fine of $1.7B. Perhaps it was the corporation's charter documents that defrauded America, or their office building, or even their retirement plan. That Scott wasn't personally convicted is the very weakest of red herrings in this discussion.

And by the way, Al Capone "worked for a living", too.

[jjk308]

Biged, in the real world of facts and logic your post is irrefutable.

But I'm sure the worshippers of the scumbag are looking up examples of sophistry so they can answer you. Like "McCollum's a politician! Horrors!"

But what does that make Scott except a politician without a political record to run on, and a private record he evades responsibility for by saying "I'm sorry." and "I wasn't charged and convicted."

"As creeping ivy clings to wood or stone, And hides the ruin that it feeds upon, So sophistry, cleaves close to, and protects Sin's rotten trunk, concealing its defects."

William Cowper, The Progress of Error, circa 1760

[CigarGuy]

Radio just reported that the Florida Chamber of Commerce, THE pro-business organization, is supporting McCollum.

[CigarGuy]

........and has Scott up in the latest poll, 43-32...............

[hatt]

And therein lies the conundrum. Until The People start fielding "their own" we will be stuck with the career politicians and the wealthy individualswho can buy their elections.

All for that little 5 letter word - p o w e r.

[jjk308]

Until The People start fielding "their own" we will be stuck with the career politicians and the wealthy individuals who can buy their elections.

"their own" then promptly becomes a career politician unless you elect a new one every term. And that means new and inexperienced politicians who will have to depend on lobbyists, or the staff of the previous incumbent. There's no easy way out.

You can't have a political process without politics, no matter how sick and tired you get of it, but you can have a government without politics. it's called an absolute dictatorship.

[P5 guy]

No one outside of the Political class will win more than one term. Some type of assassination would take place. No I do not mean death, but character would be in the mud faster than any bullet can travel.

[mjmensale]

Until The People start fielding "their own" we will be stuck with the career politicians and the wealthy individuals who can buy their elections.

"their own" then promptly becomes a career politician unless you elect a new one every term. And that means new and inexperienced politicians who will have to depend on lobbyists, or the staff of the previous incumbent. There's no easy way out.

You can't have a political process without politics, no matter how sick and tired you get of it, but you can have a government without politics. it's called an absolute dictatorship.

You put in term limits, both for the position and for the staff - no holdovers. The American political system was not envisioned to be a career choice for anybody.

And nobody has to depend on lobbyists for anything. Where is it written that lobbyists hold the keys to salvation for the country?

You don't give the American people much credit for being able to determine their own future course. For the last 75 years or so I would have to agree with that because we abrogated our rights and our country to those who told us that they would take care of us. And they certainly did. But the times and the people are changing. Unfortunately it won't happen overnight.

[Famester]

When you become the CEO, Head of the Firm, POTUS, you are responsible and accountable for the actions taken. You don't pass the buck and blame others.

Except for Owebama.

When it comes to voting for McC or Scott, I think I will flip a coin.
When it comes to the debate concerning if Scott was liable for his companies fraud, claiming Ignorance is not a defense.
Yet, McCollum has been in office all this time while the state & country has gone downhill.
I am voting against ALL Incumbents, so it will probably be Scott as the lesser of two evils.


Term Limits please.....