Florida Shooters Network

Inspired by the following conversation that is most fitting to describe this Primary Cycle:

jaybird wrote:

tector wrote:

jaybird wrote: Regardless, I will be watching the debate tonight. It certainly wont be as good as the Giants game last night, but it will still be fun to watch.

"Fun"...I think we have differing concepts of "fun"!

What? You do not like watching Train Wrecks in action?

The Kids: Us.. The voters
The Train: The GOP
The Train Cars: The current candidates

My guy Ron Paul is still doing fine and reports no train wrecks. Funny how that happens when someone doesn't sell their soul.

03Shadowbob wrote:My guy Ron Paul is still doing fine and reports no train wrecks. Funny how that happens when someone doesn't sell their soul.

Inuendo?

Nope, Bob is a straight shooter.

BTW the thing that comes pissed off out of the wagon is Gingrich after being asked about open marriage again....

Tom, I think the country as a whole is a trainwreck waiting to happen.
http://youtu.be/ENqyS2PE1AE

Tom Fernandez wrote:

03Shadowbob wrote:My guy Ron Paul is still doing fine and reports no train wrecks. Funny how that happens when someone doesn't sell their soul.

Inuendo?

If I wanted to say something, I'd say it. I'm no politician or lawyer.

*raises hand*




It certainly isn't what anyone would have expected, and the eventual repercussions are still wide open, as well as the eventual outcome.

But maybe Trainwreck was a bit extreme.....maybe a better analogy would be watching a reality TV show drunk of my ass.

The GOP primary is alienating swing voters, so in that sense it is a wreck. But, all my be forgotten once the GOP gets behind a candidate and the presidential debates begin.

And, of course, the primary debates have been great fodder for comedians. Last night's Daily Show was pretty funny:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-j ... share_copy

Defnite train wreck.

Really.... is this the best our country can do????

AFS

The last straw



http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions

AirForceShooter wrote:Defnite train wreck.

Really.... is this the best our country can do????

AFS

My thoughts exactly

Ron Paul is the most logical of the bunch... and the least likely to win the nomination.

G_Loc wrote:

AirForceShooter wrote:Defnite train wreck.

Really.... is this the best our country can do????

AFS

My thoughts exactly

Ron Paul is the most logical of the bunch... and the least likely to win the nomination.

Here is the thing, and I have touched on it in other posts...but.

This is the Republican Party's own damn fault....all of it.

You need more than just a hatred of another candidate to win against an incumbent. But that has been the strategy of the Republican party this whole time. To 'rally' the base together with the only shared connection being a hatred of the man in power. That is not how you knock out a sitting President. You need to still build an effective coalition, and this was the best year to do so. Paul COULD have been able to build a NEW coalition, but the Republican party was too stupid to see it, and by slamming Paul as much as they did, they tarnished his appearance in the eyes of many within the party.

Just like Reagan did in 1980 and Clinton did in 1992...you need to create a NEW coalition of voters to unseat a sitting president. But, the Republican establishment instead tried to force us back into the old Reagan coalition. And that just isnt going to work. The republican party deserves to lose!!! It is their own stupid fault.

Yes, sadly....their loss will just further screw over this country. Expect....this to be the 'New New Deal' Era.

My gut feeling is that somewhere, the democratic party bosses are laughing:
"this election is going to be merely a procedural formality"

fish wrote:My gut feeling is that somewhere, the democratic party bosses are laughing:
"this election is going to be merely a procedural formality"

That maybe true.

If Newt wins Florida, and Romney doesn't drop out(I see him staying in for the long haul) and Paul stays in and goes to the end(which I expect to see) and no matter what Santorum does...then this could get very ugly. And could very easily go all the way to the convention with no one having a majority of delegates. Anything then is a possibility coming out of Tampa. ANYTHING. Even a brand new person picked at the convention.

And the party rules this year, actually allows for this to easily go into May at the earliest if this stays a 3 or 4 person race. Florida and Arizona are the only full winner take all Primaries until March(both at a 50% delegate penalty). And I think all of the Primaries in March that could be winner take all, only allow for a winner take all if 1 person gets over 50% of the vote otherwise they are straight proportional. And you still have a lot of caucus and district proportionally allotted delegates all the way to the end.

Even if someone really started to go on a roll, and this went just 2 way....it would still be into April before someone could feasibly get 50% of the delegates. After April 4th, only about 63% of delegates have been selected. Texas is straight proportional BTW currently scheduled on the 4th of April...and they do not even know what districts they will be voting in yet, due to the court cases waging over re-districting.

Bottom line. Hold on for the ride, because this most likely is going to go for the long haul. And heck, this is what the party wanted. They switched to this to try to mimic the 08 democratic battle between Obama and Hillary. So if they get a mess, it is a mess of their own creation.