Florida Shooters Network

poloboy821 wrote:If i have to use my CCW in a defense situation what should i expect?

There’s a book: Florida Firearms Law, Use and Ownership by Jon H. Gutmacher that if you haven’t already read I recommend highly.

http://www.floridafirearmslaw.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FFL&Product_Code=Florida-Firearms-Law-Use-Ownership-Book

I’ve read the last several editions of this book and I would consider it necessary reading for anyone in Florida that owns a firearm, and required reading for anyone that carries a firearm.

IMHO of course.

Smith

Onree wrote:Eh, beauty marks on a gun just tell a story. So does a headstone, so drop the damn gun when told to do so by a LEO.

Of course you could just tell them,

“you’ll get my gun when you pry it from my cold dead...”

BANG! BANG bang bang.

Smith

PS: Don’t most police dept. engrave firearms taken into evidence? Which I don’t understand because firearms, well legal firearms, all have a serial number – so why would a PD need to engrave a firearm? Does it a have something to do with chain of evidence? If so, how?

Man I would be pissed off to know that I legally defended myself with a firearm, and some d-bag etched a name or evidence number into my gun... Umm don't all PDs/SO's have evidence bags that can be sealed and signed??? Engraving someones gun seems like bullsh!t to me! I don't care if you write on it with permanent marker, it's still crap!

Every time this question comes up it make me chuckle a little ..... i know there are a bunch of people on this board that feel the same way i do.

Me, If the Police confiscate a firearm that i used to legally defend myself ... I would simply pull another firearm out of the safe to carry until i got it back!

If you EVER find yourself complexed by this question you need to go by another pistol

imho

Big_Mike wrote:

glockpacker wrote:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... QL4p6iSBA#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

WOW!!! this should be mandatory viewing.....

Thank you!

Here is the 2nd part of this lecture:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9458915912

mikecu wrote:Here is the 2nd part of this lecture:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9458915912

BTW, both of these videos are in our INFORMATION RESOURCES forum. You know, the forum no one bothers to look in.
why-you-should-never-talk-the-police-t77330.html

mjmensale wrote:

mikecu wrote:Here is the 2nd part of this lecture:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9458915912

BTW, both of these videos are in our INFORMATION RESOURCES forum. You know, the forum no one bothers to look in.
why-you-should-never-talk-the-police-t77330.html

This BS and hastle to get a gun back is just another example of law abiding citizens and GGs being harrassed by the anti gun bureaucracy. Hope it never happens to any of you or me.

Mr. Smith wrote:

Onree wrote:Eh, beauty marks on a gun just tell a story. So does a headstone, so drop the damn gun when told to do so by a LEO.

Smith

[b]PS: Don’t most police dept. engrave firearms taken into evidence? Which I don’t understand because firearms, well legal firearms, all have a serial number – so why would a PD need to engrave a firearm? Does it a have something to do with chain of evidence? If so, how?

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I saw this quite often years ago, but not so much in recent years. It had to do with testimony in court. Even though the serial number was present, your badge # or initials were scratched into a grip so you could testify that it was you and not someone else who took the gun into evidence. Defense attorney's would try to confuse juries as to who took the gun and who had no part of the incident in an attempt to get their clients a not guilty verdict.

IDPAMASTER wrote:

glockpacker wrote:He talks very rapidly.

Listen VERY carefully.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... QL4p6iSBA#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Very enlightening.

wow!

On a slightly different subject: friend of mine's firearms were stolen 2 years ago. They were recovered a short time afterward by Palm Springs PD. To this day, the PSPD refuses to return them to him. Court cases against the perps have been finished quite some time ago, 2 of the 3 are already back on the streets. He is going to get a court order for the return. Why the reluctance to return his rightful property?

I have a criminal defense attorney, his card sits directly behind my CCP. He is also a friend & neighbor. He insisted I meet him at his office for an initial, though no cost, meeting. This just keeps it serious and professional.
State your name, you were in immediate fear for your life, then shut the F* up. Say NOTHING, until he's there. Then I still say NOTHING, he will do all the talking.
Messing up the finish on a gun or having a delay in getting a gun back are so far down in the noise, I can't find them. When you are looking at 8 - 10 YEARS in the FLA Penn., and the cost of a good attorney to keep your butt out of prison -- Figure $10K at least, the cost of a few few scratches on your safe queen gun fades into the insignificant category really, really fast.
Just shut the F-up, sit down and color -- Just like Kindergarten -- seriously, just shut-up, sit down and color.
The Cop ain't your friend. He's not there to prove you innocent. He's there to provide a suspect to the prosecutor. That's his job. He's not a bastard, he's just doing his job. You do yours, and shut the F-up, wait (however long) for your defense attorney to show up. The you still shut-the F up and allow the attorney to do the talking.
Really simple...Sit-down, shut-up and color!
Hey, it's your life, not mine.

As I tell others that ask me ...
Shut your mouth and ask to call your lawyer in a respectful way. Anything you say after that can only get you in trouble. The only word from your mount should be "I would please like to call my lawyer."

Pizzim wrote:Me, If the Police confiscate a firearm that i used to legally defend myself ... I would simply pull another firearm out of the safe to carry until i got it back!

Hmmm...

So the police would not try to get a warrant to go through your home?

If you were involved in a shooting outside your home?


How about if you were involved in a shooting inside your home and your safe is in plain sight?

I wonder if they would try to obtain a warrant to open it up?

mjmensale wrote:

mikecu wrote:Here is the 2nd part of this lecture:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9458915912

BTW, both of these videos are in our INFORMATION RESOURCES forum. You know, the forum no one bothers to look in.
why-you-should-never-talk-the-police-t77330.html

Very informative video! But wow, that prof needs to lay off the caffeine!