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Florida Carry - FL RKBA Battles Going on RIGHT NOW!

Postby StogieC » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:06 pm

HB463 & SB998 - Shall Issue Carry for Military & Vets Under 21:

Those who defend our country overseas should be able to defend themselves and their families at home. There have been too many incidences of violence against our troops who have just returned from overseas deployments and found themselves defenseless at home. Florida Carry authored legislation that will insure that our current troops and honorably discharged veterans can obtain a license to carry regardless of age or duty station. The bill will also require that fingerprint cards be accepted from military police and provost so that service members stationed overseas can complete their applications.

There are over 8,000 adult service members under the age of 21 living in the State of Florida. Countless more resident veterans and annual military visitors who will have their right the bear arms advanced by these bills.

This is a good first step toward full recognition of the right to bear arms by all law-abiding adults.

Florida Carry Authored and Strongly Supports These Bills
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SB1732 - Uniform Knife and Weapons Act:

Senator Thad Altman (R- District 24) has filed SB 1732, a Knife and Defensive Arms Preemption bill developed by Florida Carry and our friends at Knife Rights. This bill does for Knives and defensive carry weapons what firearms preemption has done for the past 25-years. This will end a statewide patchwork of local laws that turn good people in to criminals as they cross county lines and city limits.

Florida Carry Authored and Strongly Supports This Bill

HB179 & SB356 - Banning the "Common Pocketknife" from Universities and Schools:

This bill would ban even the "common pocketknife", the type usually carried by Boy Scouts, at all universities and schools in Florida.

Florida Carry Opposes These Bills.
Victory! - House Bill Withdrawn

Update: Because of the effort prompted by Florida Carry shining a light on this legislation, HB179 bill has been withdrawn from consideration. Events like these show the power of the grassroots support that Florida Carry is proud to be a part of. Thank you for your support and effort in getting this bill removed before it had a chance to become a problem!
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HB4015 & SB248 - Repealing Privacy of Firearm Owners:

These bills would remove the right of patients to keep their gun ownership information private and would allow healthcare providers to refuse medical treatment gun owners.

This bill would remove the following language from law:

A health care provider or health care facility shall respect a patient's right to privacy...
A health care provider or health care facility may not discriminate against a patient based solely upon the patient's exercise of the constitutional right to own and possess firearms or ammunition.
A patient may decline to answer or provide any information regarding ownership of a firearm by the patient or a family member of the patient...
Florida Carry Opposes These Bills.
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HB1087 & SB1340 - Bans Defensive Carry in Government Buildings and Child Care Facilities:

These bills would ban lawful defensive carry in all state and local government buildings and child care facilities statewide.

Carry into meetings of governing bodies is already prohibited.
There have several well documented shootings at these types of places, however none have been committed by lawful gun owners.
In fact, it was a lawful concealed carrier who intervened to stop an active shooter at a school board meeting in Florida last year.
The creation of more "gun-free zones" only bans law-abiding citizens their means of self-defense. It does absolutely nothing to deter a criminal.
Florida Carry Strongly Opposes These Bills.
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HB1556 & SB1269 - Weakens State Preemption of Firearms Law:

These bills would allow state agencies, counties, and municipalities to ban lawful defensive carry in public buildings during any sporting event. This would allow them to completely ban shooting related events at public facilities!

Concealed carry is already unlawful during athletic events under state law. This bill is nothing more than an attempt to put a crack in Florida's Exceptional Firearms and Ammunition Uniformity Law. It would once again expose lawful gun owners to a patchwork of local laws that they have no reasonable way to keep up with.

Carry into athletic events not related to firearms is already prohibited.
The creation of more "gun-free zones" only keeps law-abiding citizens from defending themselves. It does absolutely nothing to deter a criminal.
These bills are unnecessary and designed to whittle away at your rights.
Florida Carry Strongly Opposes These Bills.
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Re: Florida Carry - FL RKBA Battles Going on RIGHT NOW!

Postby birdman » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:24 pm

{quote]...Concealed carry is already unlawful during athletic events under state law. This bill is nothing more than an attempt to put a crack in Florida's Exceptional Firearms and Ammunition Uniformity Law. It would once again expose lawful gun owners to a patchwork of local laws that they have no reasonable way to keep up with....[/quote]

I believe this is not exactly correct as only professional athletic events and school sponsored athletic events are out of bounds currently. Youth soccer leagues, Little League etc, sponsored by the community and not played on a school grounds are legal for us carry as we would any other place. It sounds like the new legislation would close those options.

Not disagreeing with the rest of what you wrote and we should be opposed to the legislation, but let us be completely accurate when describing the current rules.

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Re: Florida Carry - FL RKBA Battles Going on RIGHT NOW!

Postby StogieC » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:27 pm

birdman wrote:I believe this is not exactly correct as only professional athletic events and school sponsored athletic events are out of bounds currently. Youth soccer leagues, Little League etc, sponsored by the community and not played on a school grounds are legal for us carry as we would any other place. It sounds like the new legislation would close those options.

Not disagreeing with the rest of what you wrote and we should be opposed to the legislation, but let us be completely accurate when describing the current rules.

Allan


You are absolutely correct. That said, hair-splitting details are hard to put in to brief position statements.
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Re: Florida Carry - FL RKBA Battles Going on RIGHT NOW!

Postby Kender » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:20 pm

Am I reading this right


Florida Carry Authored and Strongly Supports This Bill

HB179 & SB356 - Banning the "Common Pocketknife" from Universities and Schools:

This bill would ban even the "common pocketknife", the type usually carried by Boy Scouts, at all universities and schools in Florida.



Florida carry wants to ban pocket knives. This doesn't seem to be inline with supporting our right to lawfully defend ourselves or carry something that is not considered a weapon. What's next a ban on carrying sharp pencils? The 2nd amendment specifically covers "ARMS", not firearms, as the terminology of "Arms" is timeless and evolves with newer technology. As "laser" guns become a reality in the future they will be the new arms and thus covered by 2A. If the knife is a weapon then it is an "Arm" and covered under 2A, if it's not a weapon then why ban it? I could walk around with a claw hammer and not be looked at with suspicion and the damage that could be done is the same.
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Re: Florida Carry - FL RKBA Battles Going on RIGHT NOW!

Postby Enoch » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:49 pm

Kender wrote:Am I reading this right


Florida Carry Authored and Strongly Supports This Bill

HB179 & SB356 - Banning the "Common Pocketknife" from Universities and Schools:

This bill would ban even the "common pocketknife", the type usually carried by Boy Scouts, at all universities and schools in Florida.



Florida carry wants to ban pocket knives. This doesn't seem to be inline with supporting our right to lawfully defend ourselves or carry something that is not considered a weapon. What's next a ban on carrying sharp pencils? The 2nd amendment specifically covers "ARMS", not firearms, as the terminology of "Arms" is timeless and evolves with newer technology. As "laser" guns become a reality in the future they will be the new arms and thus covered by 2A. If the knife is a weapon then it is an "Arm" and covered under 2A, if it's not a weapon then why ban it? I could walk around with a claw hammer and not be looked at with suspicion and the damage that could be done is the same.


Kender,
Please READ before SPEAKING :ber

HB179 & SB356 - Banning the "Common Pocketknife" from Universities and Schools:

This bill would ban even the "common pocketknife", the type usually carried by Boy Scouts, at all universities and schools in Florida.

Florida Carry Opposes These Bills.
Victory! - House Bill Withdrawn
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Re: Florida Carry - FL RKBA Battles Going on RIGHT NOW!

Postby Kender » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:23 pm

Enoch wrote:
Kender wrote:Am I reading this right


Florida Carry Authored and Strongly Supports This Bill

HB179 & SB356 - Banning the "Common Pocketknife" from Universities and Schools:

This bill would ban even the "common pocketknife", the type usually carried by Boy Scouts, at all universities and schools in Florida.



Florida carry wants to ban pocket knives. This doesn't seem to be inline with supporting our right to lawfully defend ourselves or carry something that is not considered a weapon. What's next a ban on carrying sharp pencils? The 2nd amendment specifically covers "ARMS", not firearms, as the terminology of "Arms" is timeless and evolves with newer technology. As "laser" guns become a reality in the future they will be the new arms and thus covered by 2A. If the knife is a weapon then it is an "Arm" and covered under 2A, if it's not a weapon then why ban it? I could walk around with a claw hammer and not be looked at with suspicion and the damage that could be done is the same.


Kender,
Please READ before SPEAKING :ber

HB179 & SB356 - Banning the "Common Pocketknife" from Universities and Schools:

This bill would ban even the "common pocketknife", the type usually carried by Boy Scouts, at all universities and schools in Florida.

Florida Carry Opposes These Bills.
Victory! - House Bill Withdrawn



Thats why I was asking for clarification. The entire post wasn't segmented with absolute certainty.
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